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Wake-up Nightlife - Venues - The Dungeon, Oshawa, ON

Wake-up Nightlife – Club District – December 9.2007

The Dungeon, Oshawa, ON

By BD Marie Hughes

Originally submitted to SUBSTANCE Magazine, Dec.9.2007

Where is the best place to go & take in the best bands just beyond the city limits of Toronto? Two words: The Dungeon in Oshawa. Three more words: Worth the drive.

The following are excerpts from an interview with the incomparable and highly energized Sarah Bisch, General Manager. She managed to impressed the hell out of me with her quick management skills and problem-solving (“There’s always a problem!”) at a massive show in early December 2007 featuring The 68pornomags, Blackjacket, Man With Target, Bridge Too Far, End Program, and Raised Fist from Sweden currently touring Canada & the U.S. I told her she seemed extremely plugged-in to her job and that, as a competitive men’s rowing coach, I don’t blow no sunshine. Sarah is also a full-time student of the Music Management Program at Durham College. She’s a young woman that’s on top of her game.

BD: How would you describe The Dungeon to someone who’s never been? What’s its reputation?

Sarah: The Dungeon is the longest running venue for live music in Oshawa. It lives up to its name. It is a bar situated in the basement under a Laser Tag place. It’s grungy, small, and bursting with positive energy and kickass live music.

BD: Does The Dungeon advertise?

S: Due to The Dungeon being around for such a long time, it isn’t necessary to advertise the bar itself. We promote our shows all around Durham region and the internet. We have been doing some promotions lately with local radio stations and with Rogers television. The media is very supportive of our venue and we try to give them lots of opportunities to work with us and artists we are booking.

BD: What types of bands do you book – are you looking to go with a certain genre or is it a free for all?

S: The Dungeon is usually known for having in Rock, Hardcore, Punk, Ska (punk rock with brass), Emo, and Metal shows, however the venue is definitely NOT limited to those genres. In January, we are having East Coast Hip-Hop artist Classified hitting our stage. We’re always open to every genre. Another favourite Hip Hop band we’ve been having out lately is Down With Webster from Toronto. If you want to get a crowd moving, invite those guys out!

BD: How do you go about booking bands for your venue? Do you contact them or are bands getting in touch with you? What criteria, if any, do you have for the bands?

S: Bands contact us all the time. Fans of bands contact us all a time. Will (the owner of The Dungeon/WRNent which is William R. Neville Entertainment) and I are constantly on myspace, or kicking around Toronto checking out shows when we have the night off. If we find a band that we dig, we see about getting them in to play. Criteria: Be good.

A big factor about getting a second gig at the venue is to be polite. Since starting at the venue, I have dealt with some really difficult “rockstar” types. That’s a huge turn off. Your music can be good, but if you aren’t polite to the bar staff, and the promoter, don’t expect a second gig.

BD: You had mentioned earlier that there is a new owner – what is it like to work with him? I understand he’s promoted the hell out of you internally, giving you a larger role at The Dungeon and more responsibility.

S: I started at The Dungeon January 5.2007. This was the first show put on by the new owner, William Neville. I went to a show he put on at another bar a month or so earlier and got his contacts from one of the bands. I asked him if he needed a hand at any shows he was putting on. He told me he had just bought The Dungeon and offered me a job. I started out as the door person. From there I became Will’s assistant on the promotions side, and as of recently, have been promoted to being the General Manager. Will is a great boss and friend. He has been my biggest mentor in the industry. As he likes to put it, “I (Will) am a promoter. I promote my bar. I promote my bands. I promote my people”. He has lived up to that statement in every way. The venue has really had a huge turn around this year since Will took over. It’s a lot cleaner than it was in the past years, and is a safer environment to harbour the “all ages” crowd that we are proud to welcome. The bar has had some really big names play at it this year, including: illScarlett, Gob, Rockstar Supernova winner: Lukas Rossi, Social Code, Protest the Hero, The 68pornomags, Raised Fist from Sweden, etc., etc. The place is getting noticed from big entities like myspace, too. We will be co-presenting our New Year’s Eve Bash with them.

BD: What’s the craziest band you ever booked?

S: I was on tour while Toronto’s 3Tards (punk rock) played at The Dungeon. I heard stories about there being a riot and the General Manager having to call the cops to shut the show down. 3Tards are definitely one of the craziest bands in the Toronto area. They are crazy wild and encourage the crowd to get rowdy. It’s a formula for a riot for sure (we both laugh). They are also really great guys to work with. We are hoping to get them back to the venue sometime this spring.

BD: Which band or bands have come to play at The Dungeon that brought a huge audience that you weren’t expecting?

S: illScarlett shows are always huge for us. I remember the first time I saw them. It was a few years ago at the Vinyl in Guelph. illScarlett was opening for The Salads, and I was hanging out with the Salads’ bassist, Chuck, watching them. We discussed how good they were. I started my first year of college in 2006 and the first party I went to I heard a familiar sound . Since then, I haven’t been able to go a day without hearing something about the band. It has been nice to see them doing so well.

BD: Conversely (laughs), who bombed?

S: (laughs) We don’t like to talk about them.

BD: Club drink du jour?

S: There is not one drink that is a house favourite. We ensure that we stock Labatt’s 50 on nights with punk shows. It is key to stock 50 for punks.

BD: You went on tour last summer with the insanely talented Jen Militia. What was that like and how did you find it prepared you for your role here at The Dungeon?

S: The tour was a 10-week Western Canada tour. We went through highs and lows while on the road. The experience gave me an amazing look into the life of a touring band. I find that I am far more accommodating to bands and their tour managers now that I have seen how rough it can be on the road. After sleeping on a concrete floor and bathing in a wash tub for almost a week in Vancouver, you really get the feel for how life on the road can be.

We hit every different type of venue while crossing the country. You meet a lot of different people when you hit a different town every couple of days. I got to meet plenty of bar owners, promoters, bartenders, and fans. It was neat to see how different bars were run.

BD: What advice would you give to other young women looking for a career in the music and club industry? Do you, yourself, feel you’ll be here in 5 years time growing the biz or perhaps moving into a different area?

S: I shouldn’t be giving advice at this point. I’m still a baby in this industry. 19 is too young to be offering words of wisdom to anyone other than myself. I often remind myself to not lose focus. Advice I have gotten that has been good for me:

“Don’t be scared.” This has been said to me at least once by every single member of the Jen Militia. I heard it at least daily while on tour with them.

“Sleep is for the weak.” – (laughs) Will likes to joke and say this to me when I get busy juggling my school work and my work for him.

I hope to be working with Will in 5 years. He is a great boss and things just keep getting bigger and better for everyone here. I’d be crazy to bale on this operation anytime soon. I will, hopefully, tour a few more times while I’m still young and full of energy, and working with the Jen Militia. They’re going to be huge.

Ref./Sources:

www.TheDungeon.ca

www.myspace.com/wrnent

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